Re: Why do so many packaged rely on gnome-panel?

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On Sat, 4 Nov 2006 14:50:51 -0600
lostson <lostson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Saturday 04 November 2006 14:36, Norm wrote:
> > On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 04:14:41 +1800
> >
> > "Arthur Pemberton" <pemboa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > I just installed FC6 tonight. I chose KDE over Gnome. And I just
> > > thought to check what exactly was on my system and if I could
> > > clean it up a bit. During my poking around I realised that 71
> > > packages rely on gnome-keyring.
> > >
> > > The name, and the description in the RPM suggest that this a
> > > password management tool. Removing this would take with it: libs,
> > > openoffice, koffice, 4 system config tools, 2 out of 3 of my
> > > browsers , to sound engines and 2 media players to name a few
> > > things.
> > >
> > > There are a lot of deps that seem strange to me, I suppose in my
> > > ignorance.
> > >
> > > Can anyone shed some light on this?
> > >
> > > Another example would be tat removign gnome-panel cascades into
> > > having to remove kerry (KDE beagle front end) although beagle
> > > seems to be sepeated into a daemon and a gui package , and
> > > gnome-panel seems to be a gui component.
> > >
> > > So instead of filing  a ton og BZs and making a fool of myself,
> > > I'm asking questions  here.
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> >
> > I have virtually the same question except in reverse. I prefer Gnome
> > yet I too have a number of dep from kde. It seems you can not have
> > one with out the other.
> 
>  It depends on what apps you run, for instance if you are a gnome
> user but = use=20
> amarok it will require some kde deps. Same with kde, many of the
> fedora too= ls=20
> are gnome based so your gonna get gnome deps via that way.  Its a
> horse a=20 piece most of the time and besides you get the best of
> both worlds!! =2D-=20
> LostSon
> 
> http://www.lostsonsvault.org
> 
> On Saturday 04 November 2006 14:36, Norm wrote:
> > On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 04:14:41 +1800
> >
> > "Arthur Pemberton" <pemboa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > I just installed FC6 tonight. I chose KDE over Gnome. And I just
> > > thought to check what exactly was on my system and if I could
> > > clean it up a bit. During my poking around I realised that 71
> > > packages rely on gnome-keyring.
> > >
> > > The name, and the description in the RPM suggest that this a
> > > password management tool. Removing this would take with it: libs,
> > > openoffice, koffice, 4 system config tools, 2 out of 3 of my
> > > browsers , to sound engines and 2 media players to name a few
> > > things.
> > >
> > > There are a lot of deps that seem strange to me, I suppose in my
> > > ignorance.
> > >
> > > Can anyone shed some light on this?
> > >
> > > Another example would be tat removign gnome-panel cascades into
> > > having to remove kerry (KDE beagle front end) although beagle
> > > seems to be sepeated into a daemon and a gui package , and
> > > gnome-panel seems to be a gui component.
> > >
> > > So instead of filing  a ton og BZs and making a fool of myself,
> > > I'm asking questions  here.
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> >
> > I have virtually the same question except in reverse. I prefer Gnome
> > yet I too have a number of dep from kde. It seems you can not have
> > one with out the other.
> 
>  It depends on what apps you run, for instance if you are a gnome
> user but use amarok it will require some kde deps. Same with kde,
> many of the fedora tools are gnome based so your gonna get gnome deps
> via that way.  Its a horse a piece most of the time and besides you
> get the best of both worlds!!
That was actually the point I was aiming at.  There is no point in
declaring oneself a which ever choice and getting into a snit if some
of the other parts appear.  My guess is there is enough of a crossover
between them that it would take a considerable effort to not load a
package that needed the other ones deps -life is too short to worry
about that.  
I suppose I could declare my self a purist and only run applications
from command line but then I had enough of that in the era before the
1990s, and besides I am lazy if a gui works I prefer to go that route.


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