Hi all; Here I am screwing around with printers again. I have a couple of points I would like to make in case anyone is reading this. First, perhaps a bit defensively, I am not a complete newbie, and in fact, in my 2-3 years using Linux I have accomplished quiet a lot and learnt quiet a lot. However, printers have been the bane of my existence over the last few years. I have spent time in Linuxprinting, have read all the CUPS manuals and several RedHat/Fedora installation guides and I still get baffled; so here goes: FC5 has both their own printer-config gui and supplies the CUPS http://name/631/ thingy. Which takes prescedence? If I am playing around trying to get a printer configured which do I use? If temptation gets the better of me and I play with both which config dominates? I got the bit about hpijs being a driver for some HP's and contained within HPLIP but why does CUPS have HPLIP - fax (how fax gets into it I don't know) and the Fedora printer-config only has hpijs? One set of instructions said that HPLIP can get things like cartridge levels which is a feature of my HP PSC 1315 and shows them in my 'device manager'. What is my device manager?. Why does the config-printer-daemon keep screwing up my settings and giving me a completely new set of queue paths that have nothing to do with my computer and a printer name (of its own choosing) that is longer than 18 characters -- the supposed name length restriction? How am I supposed to choose between installed locally? and a set of network choices that might be construed as at least half true for my setup? I really can go on and on about the ambiguity and confusion that I have experienced with printers; HPs, Ebsons and Canons. If anyone who can effect change is interested I'll take the time to document all of my various misunderstandings and confusions. As for now, I will try and get my printer working. It quit this morning; I posted to the list asking for help. It started printing again this afternoon (why?); posted this list cancelling my post. Went out this evening and now it doesn't work again. Haven't touched it. It works without a burp in Windows??? -- Regards Bill