On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 09:54:23 +0930, Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Bruno Wolff III: > >> You really should refer to this codec as Vorbis, not Ogg. > > Yes, and no. I suppose it depends on whether the device cares more > about the container or the encoding. Generally people talk about the > files, rather than the codecs. So an ogg file is an ogg file. XMMS may > play an ogg file encoded in more than one way. I don't know whether > it'd play vorbis data outside of an ogg file. Probably you need both. But still, just saying Ogg is ambiguous when talking about properties such as being lossy versus lossless. Or even audio verus video. Probably saying Ogg Vorbis is best since that covers both the container and the codec. I haven't run accross Vorbis not inside of Ogg, but I have seen Flac outside of Ogg. Ogg also lets you combine multiple media streams in one container. So that you could have the soundtrack to a video in the same file as the video similar to what you typically find in mpg or wmv files.