The bottom line for me is I cannot use this font, because it lets subtle
differences slip by me, I sit about 1 arms length from my 21in CRT
monitor (as I have done for the last 25 years) and I just never had a
problem before now.
I understand that technically you have to do things "technically
correct" but, I'm a human, not a text scanner and that should be taken
into consideration. It really sounds to me like this is a case of the
"specifications" rather then actual real world which we all live in.
I suggest that you enable it as default in FC6 as you plan, but I
reckon it'll be complete gone by FC7, because this forum is going to be
full of support requests that result in "Oh that's a typo, you idiot"
responses to the unaware.
Apart from this one show stopper (for me), I really do like the font.
Albert.
Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
Le vendredi 14 juillet 2006 à 13:02 -0400, Tony Nelson a écrit :
At 4:05 PM +0200 7/14/06, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
The slash is there to distinguish between O and 0 in the monospace font.
It's an explicit requirement for a font which may be used in terminals,
software IDEs and other technical contexts.
oOØ0ø
OK, which are which?
As the small attached shot DejaVu Mono perfectly distinguishes between
your variations (as Vera did BTW)
It's well known already that slash does not distinguish between Oh and
Zero, because of the Slashed Oh (U+00D8 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O WITH STROKE)
used in Europe.
Which is why Vera uses a dot
In non-monospace families it's possible to get without it, since O is
then wider than 0. In monospace it's the only possible choice.
It's not the only possible choice. My hack has been to put a dot in the
upper-right of a Zero.
And how well does this play with 0xAE and others O-with-diatrics glyphs?
(ignoring for a while computer convention has long been to disambiguate
0 by putting something in its middle)
Keep on trying. If a Zero looks like an Oh, at least people know to watch
out, but if it looks like a Slashed Oh or Eight, then they're just going to
be misled.
It does not look one bit like an 8 on my screen so I suspect bad
configuration on the user side, no knowledge of usual 0 presentation in
technical fonts, too little time spent with DejaVu Mono to train its
eyes, or some mix of all these causes.
The basic latin part of Vera Sans Mono (which DejaVu Sans Mono) inherits
has been audited to death by all the Gnome, Xorg and Freedesktop
developers precisely to disambiguate 0O, lI1 and other combos font
usually do bad (precisely because most hackers use a mono variant as
their primary font). Nothing is perfect, so it can certainly be
perfected, but its current level is pretty good.
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