I just now tried to open Konsole in FC5 on KDE. The system was installed less than a day ago, and has been yum updated today. Konsole showed up for about 1 second and then disapeared. No crash error message was displayed. And it won't stay up if I try to open it again. So I CTRL-ALT-F4ed into a console and tried to login as root (I want to yum something). I got this message and the screen locked: INIT: Id "4" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes Are these incidents related? What would cause them? Thanks in advance for any ideas. Dotan Cohen http://auto-car.info