Tim: >> No different from the boat they're in now. Download Core ISO, and three >> others. Still a lot to download, whether KDE is on the first or last >> disc. Likewise for Gnome, OpenOffice.org, et al. Arthur PembertonL > Of course it is different: > 1) Buy a CD from a vendor: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/LocalVendors > 2) A current FC user passes on the already burnt CDs to a newbie friend I don't think that with Fedora you're going to get a one CD installation of a useful computer system. A one DVD installation, perhaps. But getting a disc is a different kettle of fish than downloading. >> Just make the first disc small, so those wanting a real core-only system >> can have it. Then you can build up from other discs, downloaded files, >> or whatever... > Just out of curiousity, what do you consider to be a core-only system, > or is there an objective definition so that I can better understand > what you mean when you say that. That's going to be a matter of opinion. But to me, a really bare bones core isn't going to install X (or parts of it), a plethora of graphics manipulation libraries, etc. As the last minimal installation I tried of either FC3 or FC4 did. I'd say that a really bare bones system just boots and gives you a command shell where you can add anything, and everything, else that you want. -- (Currently running FC4, occasionally trying FC5.) Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists.