Hello guys, Some clarification: I am using FC5 from the FC5 CDs. All updates happen through yum from the standard repos plus freshrpms. I have not enabled dag and livna since they don't support FC5 yet, as it seems. Yes, I have read the release notes (back when I moved from RedHat 8/9 to FC1) and yes, I do understand the bleeding edge stuff - I have been using UNIX in one or other form since 1984 and I know all about that edge for decades, I'm not new to this. What I was hoping for was a faster turn around time - that's why we use Linux after all, isn't it? The issue now isn't that I don't get FF and TB to work - no, they work just fine - the issue now is that the dual head thing isn't working. Hardware: IBM ThinkPad T41, ATI Mobility 7500 (aka ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW). Best regards, Chris Chris Jones wrote: >> The failure in FC4 is that they didn't install libstdc++.so.5 which >> is required for Thunderbird and Firefox. I found you can yum install >> that lib and both will work fine on FC4. They got it right on FC5. >> > > There is no failure on FC's part. > > FC is a bleeding edge distro. This has ALWAYS been stated and if you are > unaware of this, you should have read the release notes. > > FC5 uses by default a NEWER version of libstdc++. If you install (through > the correct update/installation channels, i.e. yum/pup/pirut) some > application (such as thunderbird/firefox) which requires an older version of > libstdc++, then yum/pup/pirut will(or perhaps should) resolve the > dependencies for you and install the older compat libraries that are need. > > If, as I suspect in your case, you disregard the release notes and install > things differently (such as using mozilla's own installation tools or you > wish to install a package for which there is no rpm and you are forced to > build from source), then you have to resolve these dependencies yourself. > This is obvious and you cannot complain. If you fail to do so the fault is > yours not FC's > > Chris > > -- Chris Ruprecht Senior Consultant Progress * Linux * PHP BravePoint, Inc. 5000 Peachtree Industrial Suite 100 Norcross, GA 30071 770.449.9696 Ext. 3033 * 770.449.9003 (Fax) www.bravepoint.com - cruprecht@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx