clemens@xxxxxxx wrote: > BUT, first all the install screens have been simplified to the point that you > have little or no choice of what gets installed. No two levels like they used > to be. If you want to flog a dead horse there is another thread you can join. > AND THEN, when it comes up I can find NO WAY to bring up a TERMINAL > window. Seems that should be #1 on some list but I cant find it at all. > > That would seem to make the emulation of Windows complete. I don't understand what you mean by "Windows Emulator" and how it relates to the rest of your question...if there actually is one. > I finally gave up and tried to close it down, but of course you cant do that > either. I could <CTL><ALT><BKSP> to kill X11 and get back to the login > screen, and there were two buttons there that looked much like windows, > and on windows would have let me shut down the system, but NO neither > of them would do anything. Finally had to power cycle to get out of this > thing. Is it that you want to start your system in a "non GUI" state? Or, do you want to know how to switch from the GUI to a "terminal" session? For the former, you have several choices depending on your intention. If you *always* want to start in non-GUI mode then you simply edit your /etc/inittab to start the system at "runlevel 3". If you want to select that option at boot time you do it in the grub screens. Basically adding 3 to the kernel parameter line. If you want to switch from GUI mode to a Terminal then "Ctrl+Alt+F1" through "Ctrl+Alt+F6" gets you to one of 6 "terminals". "Ctrl+Alt+F7" gets you back. > What do others think of this new look-and-feel? That's another useless thread... > If this is where Fedora is going, Im going to have to try Centos. Centos != FC5 Centos = RHELv4 Seems like lots of folks out there have a hard time dealing with change. -- Why be difficult when, with a bit of effort, you could be impossible?