On Tue, 2006-05-09 at 20:19 -0500, Jeff Vian wrote: > On Tue, 2006-05-09 at 08:21 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote: > > Jeff Vian wrote: > > > On Mon, 2006-05-08 at 15:20 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: > > >> On Mon, 2006-05-08 at 15:10, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > >>>> It's not a bug, it is a design decision. > > >>>> > > >>>>> This is a user list...whining here is merely pissing in the wind. > > >>>> That's only true if the designers don't care enough about users > > >>>> to pay attention to the whining. > > >>> Its not possible or efficient for developers and designers to read all > > >>> the mails in the fedora-list to gather feedback. > > >> OK, but does that differ greatly from what I said? A lot of > > >> decisions seem to be made with no thought about the real-world > > >> effects. For example if someone wanted to build PCs with > > >> fedora pre-installed, what might the user expect to find on > > >> it? > > >> > > > Whatever the "builder" chose to install. Doh! > > > > > > > Which the safest choice is "install everything" since the builder > > does not know exactly how the customer is going to use the machine. > > > Actually the better choice would be to install what *most* will use, and > provide media with the rest so they can tailor the install to fit their > needs. The builder should pick a user interface, and stick with it - IE gnome or KDE, but not both. The builder should pick a set of applications that they are willing to support when the customer calls. > > No Windows machine comes with ANY apps installed except those the > builder chose to provide and that usually is something like microsoft > works and some media apps. The flexibility and availability of apps for > Linux is overpowering even for the expert user to keep up with. A > newbie would be totally overwhelmed and would have no clue as to the > number of apps installed if he was given 'everything'. Exactly. A newbie does not need every app available. My personal recommendation is a basic GNOME desktop with maybe a few things from Extras added, and (when they are ready) the GStreamer multimedia plugins from fluendo.
