On Thursday 20 April 2006 03:24, nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito wrote: >Il giorno gio, 20/04/2006 alle 00.42 -0400, Gene Heskett ha scritto: >> Greetings; >> >> Subject...Is there such a thing? I've browsed the limited docs >> installed on FC5, without finding anything that tells me how to >> configure it. All I know is that if I start those 2 daemons, I have >> to manually restart the network to restore service, and >> that /etc/NetworkManager is an empty directory. > >+1 on this. >But i fear that NM is still work in progress and i do feel it lacks of >documentation (as most of the prominent new Mono applications: > banshee, beagle ..) compared to traditional ones. > >At the moment the most clear and insightful article for NM i've found >are: >- http://www.ces.clemson.edu/linux/nm.shtml That site is great, hopefully the fact that its gnome-centric won't screw me around too bad. I've gone about 1/4 way down the page installing and presetting stuff but commented out, and have printed it out to take with me as a flowchart to get it working at the worksite. I do have to say that cups and the network required no setup, I just clicked on firefoxes print link, it opened a requestor showing all the printers defined on this machine, I selected the full color medium res profile and its printing just fine. Beautiful! I do hope that this project doesn't fall into disrepair from lack of interest as the premise of its design makes it (apparently) a whole lot easier to setup than winderz does. I took the wap11 over to the neighbors and spent about 20 minutes with XP and with FC5 booted, and was never able to succesfully transistion from my setup behind a firewall with all fixed 192.168 addreses, and his setup with the wap11 plugged directly into his dsl modem. >and >- http://www.redhat.com/magazine/003jan05/features/networkmanager/ > (yes, more than a year old) I'll also print this page for later reference. Thanks for the links, they look much better than most doc sets. Humm, based on needing to install networkmanager-gnome, I thought maybe there was a matching networkmanager-kde so yum is looking for that now. But no match. I do see a Network VPN Manager in the menu's now. Whats the diff between 'yum check-updates' and clicking on the 'package updater' in the kde menu's that has the yellow puppy dog icon in its window? I ask because they apparently use two different databases of whats installed, and two different src's for the "what has been updated" listings. Yum didn't find a new FC5 kernel 2096 20 minutes ago, and this package updater did. But this utility didn't know firefox was just updated a few hours ago, or is this a new respin to fix a release bug? Me confused... Better question yet, am I headed for a disaster by using 2 different tools? Both are in the default FC5 install FWIW. >cheers > >-- >nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. losito >http://koolinus.wordpress.com http://www.koolinus.net > >"If privacy is outlawed, only outlaws will have privacy." >Linux Registered User #293182 -- Cheers, Gene People having trouble with vz bouncing email to me should add the word 'online' between the 'verizon', and the dot which bypasses vz's stupid bounce rules. I do use spamassassin too. :-) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.