Greetings; Subject...Is there such a thing? I've browsed the limited docs installed on FC5, without finding anything that tells me how to configure it. All I know is that if I start those 2 daemons, I have to manually restart the network to restore service, and that /etc/NetworkManager is an empty directory. -- Cheers, Gene People having trouble with vz bouncing email to me should add the word 'online' between the 'verizon', and the dot which bypasses vz's stupid bounce rules. I do use spamassassin too. :-) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.