On Sunday 16 April 2006 16:44, Matthew Saltzman wrote: >On Sun, 16 Apr 2006, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Sunday 16 April 2006 14:52, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> On Sunday 16 April 2006 13:47, Matthew Saltzman wrote: >>>> On Sun, 16 Apr 2006, Gene Heskett wrote: >>>>> Humm, I now have installed the 386 version of FC5, but I told it >>>>> to put grub in the 1st sector of /dev/hda2, the partition named >>>>> /boot. >>>>> >>>>> But there's no choice of booting anything but XP. I guess this >>>>> means I have to install it in the mbr of /dev/hda? >>>>> >>>>> In which case how do I install it, and whats the magic spell to >>>>> put into grub.conf so I have a choice of what to boot? >>>>> >>>>> Running the rescue cd, and cd'd to /mnt/sysimage, with a shell, a >>>>> "usr/local/sbin/grub-install /dev/hda" gets me a message that it >>>>> can't find grub in sbin. Of course its not there, if booted >>>>> normally it would be in /usr/sbin. > >Actually, it would be in /sbin/. So it would be in > /mnt/sysimage/sbin/ if it's not part of the rescue image. Or instead > of cd, use "chroot /mnt/sysimage". That will make your environment > look just like your normal system. Thats what I found in that thread, and it seems to have worked. Yum updated, x restarted with kde & a real screenmode, looking better all the time. But I just sent me a message from evolution, ahh, it finally echoed from vz. So thats working. I ran firefox against this machine and all the printers showed up, now to do that to localhost:631. And that looks good. The printers are all there. I love it when things Just Work(TM) for a change. But I'm very surprised that kmail is not in the kde menu's. Has it been dropped in favor of evolution? By golly, I might be able to pack this puppy up & haul it 1k miles & still be in touch for email and such. I see that in the xorg.conf, there are two mouse entries, so presumably I can plug in that bluetooth M$ minimouse and it will work too. I just noticed that the blue led in the screen hinge, which lights up when winderz is running & the broadcom 802-11 is enabled, is not lit here. Am I going to have to go buy an 802-11 standalone gismo, plugging it into my switch, in order to test that? Its a concern because thats what the motel I'll be staying in has for broadband access. Can someone familiar with that throw me a clueby4? >>>>> Obviously there's something I'm doing wrong in trying to protect >>>>> the XP install, but how can I fix it and boot the just installed >>>>> i386 version of FC5? I'd druther not have to go all the way thru >>>>> another install just to move the grub stuff into the MBR. >>>> >>>> You are fine with GRUB in /dev/hda2. Now boot with a rescue disk >>>> and run 'fdisk /dev/hda' Then enter 'a' to toggle the boot flag >>>> and then '2' to make /dev/hda2 bootable, then 'w' to write the >>>> partition table, then reboot. >>>> >>>> Do *NOT* use the Windows disk manager to toggle the bootable flag! >>>> Every time I tried that with Win2K, it would blow away my entire >>>> partition table. >>>> >>>> I always thought it would be nice if when you selected /boot's >>>> partition for GRUB, the installer would make it bootable, but when >>>> I bugzilla'd the request it was shot down. >>> >>> I just did that, checked it with a p, then w rote it. Got this >>> message: Warning: re-reading the partition table failed with error >>> 16: Device or resource busy. Then I ctl-d'd the shell and let it >>> reboot. It booted to windows, I rebooted, hit esc, that screen >>> looked like the normal bios screen for selection, with neither hda1 >>> nor hda2, just hda being the choices. I rebooted to the rescue cd, >>> and re-ran fdisk & found that flag was off again. I've set it >>> again, but when I w the changes, the above error is output. > >I don't think the fdisk error is a problem, as it occurs on reading. >The BIOS selection screen won't show partitions, just devices. The > boot process should find the active partition on the disk or boot the > MBR if there is none. > >>> Do I need to skip the search? Ahh, that time no error when I wrote >>> it, but the * survived adjacent to /dev/hda2. But no boot choice >>> either on the reboot. >>> >>> So I power cycled it, and booted back to the rescue cd. And no >>> boot flag for /dev/hda2 when I rerun fdisk /dev/hda after the power >>> cycle. >>> >>> Next suggestion reinstall/what? If I reinstall, and let it put >>> grub in the mbr this time, whats the magic spell for grub.conf to >>> make XP Home edition usable again? >>> >>> Thats based on if I'm to hate winderz as bad as I have over the >>> years, never having owned a winderz machine before, I'd at least >>> like to get to know my enemy. >> >> And I just found GAG on the gparted disk, maybe this will work, or >> should I figure on reinstalling and letting it put grub in the mbr >> this time? > >I don't know GAG, but gparted should be another way to handle toggling >boot flags. > >I always configure my dual-boot machines with GRUB in the /boot > partition (which has to be a primary partition). Then I make that > partition active, as I described. It's always worked just as I > described. When you boot, you should see the GRUB spash screen. > >Wait... In the BIOS, do you have a boot virus checker? If so, try >turning it off before you run fdisk. > >-- > Matthew Saltzman > >Clemson University Math Sciences >mjs AT clemson DOT edu >http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- Cheers, Gene People having trouble with vz bouncing email to me should add the word 'online' between the 'verizon', and the dot which bypasses vz's stupid bounce rules. I do use spamassassin too. :-) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.