Hi David; Each to his own, of course. On Sat, 2006-15-04 at 01:19 -0400, David C. Chipman wrote: > Hi Bill, > > I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree with your > opinions about "panel 'thingy'"s. I would find it a pain to wade > through updates for packages I might not have installed. > So, for me, having something let me know that there are > updates available for my system (and the packages it *does* have > installed), is much more useful. > However, there is the possibility of occasionally > running "yum check-update", and testing its exit code. Have a panel > applet do that, and if it returns an exit value of 100, then run pirut? > Just a thought, > > -David Chipman But I have found, on any given day the number of upgrades hardly constitute a "wade". On the other hand, I have gotten to know the most common downloads and what they do. For example, I am currently waiting for the gnome 2.14.1 update which will probably fix a lot of little things. If it shows up in the Evo folder I'll download it right away. If instead Open Office shows up, I'll put that off to the evening because it takes so long to download and install. I never found the up2date icon very useful and much prefer having something to check before downloading. Mostly I like to get a look at the email release notes. If I'm not sure, I let yumex pick the packages that need upgrading and leave it at that. But, it's what you get used to. I thought the suggestion might be useful for someone who likes to do things the way I do. I would just like to add, if the yumex or pirut or pup people are going to add an update notification, they should remember that this Linux we are talking about. Give us the ability to configure it the way different people might want. We don't need a Microsoft attitude of do it our way -- only. Regards Bill