Hi Bill, I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree with your opinions about "panel 'thingy'"s. I would find it a pain to wade through updates for packages I might not have installed. So, for me, having something let me know that there are updates available for my system (and the packages it *does* have installed), is much more useful. However, there is the possibility of occasionally running "yum check-update", and testing its exit code. Have a panel applet do that, and if it returns an exit value of 100, then run pirut? Just a thought, -David Chipman
