On Sun, 2006-04-02 at 18:23, Craig White wrote: > All of the discussion about gui > tools is self serving attempts to provide a smoke screen to the basic > issue...that the sysadmin doesn't want to commit the time and energy to > learning how to deal with it. The logical extension that I add to that > is this unwilling system admin is not professional and will take the > easy road, much like failure to implement password policies discussed a > few days ago, etc. as this behavior is endemic and not likely reserved > to just selinux. Or, an equally valid view is that the sysadmin in question has learned from experience that every new-and-different extension to the basic unix system promoted by one or a few vendors has historically not turned out to be necessary and sometimes introduced new problems. A wait-and-see attitude isn't such a bad thing. When it is proven, you might expect all distributions to ship it. -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx