On 28Mar2006 00:32, Ali Helmy <alihelmy@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: | Well, I did both of these and still, no green light... | any other suggestions NOT mentioned in the walk-through? 1: Don't top post. 2: Test connectivity directly: telnet pop.gmail.com 995 That will test two things: DNS resolves pop.gmail.com (telnet should recite the IP address to you) and test the connection. Like this: [~]zoob*> telnet pop.gmail.com 995 Trying 64.233.163.109... Connected to pop.gmail.com (64.233.163.109). Escape character is '^]'. ^] telnet> quit Connection closed. If you get the "Connected to ..." message you are ok to reach gmail; your problems are with your login most likely. If the connection times out you have a network issue, for example a firewall. If the "Trying ..." message doesn't occur, DNS is not working. Cheers, -- Cameron Simpson <cs@xxxxxxxxxx> DoD#743 http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ hybrid rather than pure; compromising rather than clean; distorted rather than straightforward; ambiguous rather than articulated; both-and rather than either-or; the difficult unity of inclusion rather than the easy unity of exclusion. - Paul Barton-Davis <pauld@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>