On Saturday 11 February 2006 12:15 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > I have run into a drive or two that for some reason had problems > with master/slave jumpering when using two drives, but would work > fine with CS. I have also run into cases where there are two > different jumper settings listed for the master drive when using > a slave, and the one you used depended on the slave drive being > used. Then again, I can remember when you had to be very > careful when trying to hook two different brands of drives > together - you sometimes had to swap master and slave to get > them to work together. But by the time UDMA-66 drives came out, it > was not as much of a problem. > > The problem with having different master settings depending on the > slave is still around. You sometime have to look at the drive manual > or quick start guide to find the alternate settings, but they are > still around. And it tends to be more common on drives that need > a jumper changed when you add a slave then drives that only need > one jumper changed when changing from master to slave to cable > select. (There is also more then one slave configuration.) We had this same conversation some months back, with pretty much the same staunch positions being advocated. I build lots of machines, that's part of my job. I'm with the above. This has been my experience. Someone stated that ALL cables are CS now - I'd be curious to see the basis of that info. It's not been my experience at all. Someone else stated that all drives are being CS enabled or something to that effect - I buy lots of drives, and that is not my experience at all, here in the U.S. I think the standard is increasingly being met, and newer equipment is tending to adhere, but if you have to deal with a lot of older machines and suppliers, you'll eventually run into the anomalies descrbed by Mikkel. I have, and so described them some months back. It was certainly a suggestion worth making to Anne...and as we see, her results were anomalous, just as Mikkel, and I, have suggested can be... -- Claude Jones Bluemont, VA, USA