On Thursday 05 January 2006 12:44, Marcel Janssen wrote: > > See if Cinelerra is any better: > > > > http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3 Well, being busy for some time now I can tell that dvgrab can capture my streams. Cinelerra can read the streams and render them into some other format (but none useful to me it seems or I can't find how). Kino still doesn't work and I think that's going to be a long story before it will work on my system. Cinelerra can't capture because of some stupid naming issue. It complaines /dev/dv1394 is a directory (which is true :-) ). It expects the device file there and it seems hard coded in cinelerra (as far as I can tell). LiVES (http://lives.sourceforge.net/) was actually the only application that captured straight away from the DV camera. Unfortunately all frames are mixed up :-( Anyway, this application might have some future. I do like it's straight forward interface ("file->import from device -> Import from Firewire camera", how much clearer can it get ?). Cinelerra is a very nice application but perhaps a bit too much for the average user who just want to convert their DV tapes to DVD with a bit of editing. Previously I had experienced that kino worked very well (older version) on my 32bit laptop. Now it's a straight no-go on my 64bit machine. If there are any other tools, I'd be interested to hear about them. Regards, Marcel