On Fri, 2005-12-30 at 19:04 -0800, Antonio Olivares wrote: > > --- Les Mikesell <lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Thu, 2005-12-29 at 21:38, John Summerfied wrote: > > > > > Today, I suggest that > > > If you want stability and support, buy RHEL in the > > appropriate flavour > > > If you want stability and cheap, download one of > > the EL clones such as > > > TAO, CENTOS, WBEL (are there more?) > > > If you want the latest and can bear the occasional > > breakage, use Fedora > > > Core 4. > > > If you don't care for stability and/or want to > > help refine things, > > > Fedora Core 5 beta (maybe blend in some rawhide?) > > is for you. > > > > But realistically, what people want is close-to-the > > latest plus > > some stuff that none of the above includes, like > > mplayer, xine, > > xmms with mp3 support, java, flash and the browser > > plugins for > > them, etc., so you want FC3 or FC4 with all current > > updates > > and a bunch of 3rd party packages. It can be done, > > but > > it's not necessarily pretty. > > > > Very well said. Users want a product that just works > straight out without having to "search, yum their way, > compile their way", etc with all the great stuff > " > mplayer, xine, > xmms with mp3 support, java, flash and the browser > plugins for > them, etc. > " > > and since Red Hat is "releasing"/"has released" Fedora > on its own, why not have all these things within > Fedora. No more trademarks/patents other difficulties > to get what users want. What is holding Fedora Back > now? ---- licensing restrictions - which of course has nothing to do with Red Hat's involvement or non-involvement with Fedora. ---- > By the way is this the longest thread of the year, or > will it be Peter Whalley, petsupermarket.uol.br > Enquiring minds want to know. ---- who cares? Craig