Lokrin wrote:
>> Applications --> System tools -->> New Login
>> This will let you open different users for different consoles. >> There are items like sound that don't work well on the new login, >> but it is handy for running KDE or XFCE in one console and Gnome in >> the other.
> The command-line version of this (for those who are into such > things) might be "X :1 -query <machinename> -once". I say "might > be" because I just tried this on my newly-installed FC4 system, and > got (1) a blank screen with a little X in the middle, and (2) error > messages when I went back to the original screen (with > control-alt-F7).
That is because you are launching X without a windowmanager. (KDE, GNOME, XFCE). Startx is a script that sets up things and also launches your preferred window manager. X by itself does what you were seeing and is normal.
> I also tried it from a text console, with the same > result. So I tried your GNOME-GUI way, described above, and that > didn't work either, though the symptoms were slightly different -- > blank screen with a cursor at the top, very similar to what was > happening with the text consoles before I applied the "copy > libvgahw.a from an FC3 system" fix discussed recently in this list.
If one version of X, (either launched from the startx script or from a display manager (gdm, kdm, xdm) there is probably an issue not related to libvgahw.a
>>>>> The properties in the command is the command
> > Update / some mysteries solved: > > (*) On my system gdmflexiserver starts a second graphical session, > but on virtual terminal 9, not 8. (*) "X :1 -query localhost -once" > also does *something* with virtual terminal 9, but whatever it is > is not a huge success -- I get a blank screen with a little "X" in > the middle.
Explained above. you launched the server with no manager.
> > (*) The following lines appear in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf: > > [xdmcp] # Distributions: Ship with this off. It is never a safe > thing to leave # out on the net. Setting up /etc/hosts.allow and > /etc/hosts.deny to only # allow local access is another alternative > but not the safest. # Firewalling port 177 is the safest if you > wish to have xdmcp on. # Read the manual for more notes on the > security of XDMCP. #Enable=false > > I *think*, but I'm not sure, that all of this started working > better when I changed "#Enable=false" to "Enable=true". Based on > the comments, it does seem that "X :1 -query" won't work without > this change. >
I never adjusted anything in gdm.conf manually.
> > Further questions: > > (*) Why do these second X sessions use virtual terminal 9 rather > than 8?
I couldn't answer the why. I noticed this behavoir on one of the many computers that I setup with Fedora. Most computers that I tried were F8 for the second instance of X.
> > (*) Why does "X :1 -query" still not work?
It does work. This is X w/o a window manager.
> > (*) Where is the "-query" option to "X" documented, anyway? It > doesn't seem to be in the man page for the "X" command.
The thought never crossed my mind until your query. I'll have to investigate if it is even a legitimate option.
> > -- blm > I haven't been following this thread, but what I use from tty1 (vt1, or whatever) is the following, which I've got aliased to "startx". This is my home computer and it starts out at init level 5 with kde on vt7 This command logs me in as root on vt8.
Run "switchdesk kde" from your root account. Running X as root caused me problems (wiped out my whole system during testing phoebe), I would advise not running an X server as root. I myself run kdeuser, xfceuser and so forth. I login to a terminal and run "switchdesk kde" and "switchdesk xfce" for the accounts.
My two problems
are that I would prefer KDE over gnome - why, since my default vt7 login is kde, does this send me to gnome? - and when I log out of the session it stops the X session on VT8 totally and doesn't give me the option of logging in as a different user..
You are not using a login display manager with the startx script, thus no login prompt after logout.
startx -- :1 2>devnul &
Jim
