cross-posted to gmane.linux.yellowdog.general and gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general; followups set to gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general I have a G3 iBook which has had no slightest vestige of OSX since I hosed that (on purpose, with great glee) when upgrading YDL 2.3 to 3.0; and wild horses couldn't've dragged me to putting it back when I replaced YDL 3.0 with YDL 4.0. It has run fine all that time. But I have downloaded ISOs twice, and burned CD3 three times, always checking sha sums, and using k3b with slightly different settings -- two of them including Verify Written, which i believe checks md5 sums. Out of all my attempts, most won't even boot into the FC4 install; the one time one did, it couldn't get past the first CD. Some of the trouble came from my initial attempt to tinker with the apple bootstrap partition; Fedora told me Don' Nebber Do Dat, and I *thought* I had UNdone it; but maybe not. Anyway, even with CDs that can hardly have any problem I've yet heard of, and knowing not to touch the fershlugginer partition, I can't get FC4 to do anything more than mess up the machine -- to the point where I have to get out my Terrasoft YDL4 CDs and reinstall that to be able even to boot. I'm wondering if by any chance the people who produced FC4.ppc imagined that anyone wanting it would have OSX, and never realized that some of us (possibly even a majority of those ready to try FC4.ppc on sight) would long since have gotten rid of OSX. Could that vile thing be? Or am I barking up yet another wrong tree? (I'm beginning to think of applying the big hammer -- a sixteen-pound sledgehammer -- after setting the iBook on a convenient solid stump ....) -- Beartooth Oldfart, Neo-Redneck, Linux Convert FC4, YDL 4; Pine 4.63, Pan 0.14.2.91; Privoxy 3.0.3; Dillo 0.8.5, Opera 8.01, Firefox 1.0.6, Epiphany 1.6.1 Remember that I have little idea what I am talking about.