On 7/22/05, Andrew Overholt <overholt@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > those. A few people have talked about submitting the WTP to Fedora Extras > and I can see that happening sometime soon. If anyone's interested in > helping with this, contact me or check out fedora-devel-java-list or > #fedora-java on Freenode. I'll have a look when WTP 0.7 (the official 3.1 supporting version) is release next week. How's the FC4 update to Eclipse 3.1 coming along? > switch). Another way of doing things is to just download, say, Sun's stuff > as a .tar.gz (or zip? I can't remember how they distribute it), expand it > somewhere, and run eclipse (from our packages) with the -vm option (ie. > eclipse -vm /home/me/sun/j2blah/bin/java). That's great. I had no idea you packaged it up so flexible ;) Does that mean there are no "hacks" in the Eclipse packages to make it run on gcj? (there are a lot of patches in de Eclipse SRPM) > > If you just want to use Eclipse it's the recommended way since it runs > > a lot faster with Sun Java than on gcj. But it would be great if you'd > > like to test Eclipse/gcj. > I appreciate the shout-outs for testing however, I don't really know if > I would say using Sun's stuff is the "recommended" way :) . Well there are Well, the Eclipse guys say so: http://eclipse.org/eclipse/faq/eclipse-faq.html#users_3 Maybe you could try to get them to mention gcj as a runtime alternative? > some bugs in libgcj for sure, it's come a long way and the speed is not > that much worse. Plus, this is gcc 4.0.x which contains the first release > of gcj's new Binary Compatible ABI. This release was more concerned with > correctness than speed optimizations. I assure you that things will only > get better from here :) I understand it's slower and it will get better, but for users not interested in testing the gcj based version it's hard to justify not running it on a JVM that runs about twice as fast. (based on my totally unscientific measurements of clocking startup time) But thanks for the assurance ;) - I'm really impressed with the FC4 Java stack and hoping to see gcj becoming a good alternative to the Sun JDK. Klaasjan