On 6/28/05, Michael Schwendt <mschwendt.tmp0501.nospam@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:00:14 -0700, Kam Leo wrote: > > > > > Their position is that a) there are > > > > no apt-get mirrors or b) they cannot legally reference available > > > > apt-get repos. > > > > > > a) is wrong [see information in the mail you replied to], > > > > I referenced their position (April 2005, FC4-t2 release). Since I did > > not install any of the test releases I cannot verity if Freshrpms or > > Fedora.us had FC4 apt repos enabled at that time. > > It's end of June 2005, so argueing about information from April 2005 makes > no sense. > > > > b) is correct. > > > > Let's see: "mirror-select" is no longer supported. sources.list and > > sources.list.d are empty. A end-users are required to locate and > > configure apt repos before use. > > > > What is the point of Extras providing this package if it is that > > devoid of features? > > It is still software which can be used for accessing selfmade/local Apt > repositories. It's just missing configuration of default repositories. Apt > still has some fans. It may be supported less than before, kind of > deprecated also because it doesn't support multilib installations. But > where would be the point in dropping it completely without giving users a > final chance to migrate to Yum? This is Extras, not Core. Apt could still > be dropped completely around FC5, for instance. It could also be continued > to be maintained in Extras as long as there is interest in that. Who knows? > Maybe some developer picks it up as new maintainer. Options, speculations, > whatever... > > > Perhaps they should just drop the package. The apt repos can then > > provide a package that works immediately after installation. > > An empty sources list directory means any 3rd party repository could > insert repository configuration files there. > > In a similar way as you argue about Apt, some users argue about media > players. They say an audio player is useless if it cannot play back MP3 > files. But since only 3rd party repositories provide MP3 plugins for the > audio player, that is no reason to drop the player from Core/Extras. > Your analogy is poor. The audio player has a .wav decoder and can play audio CDs. What if the audio player required a separate plugin to play an audio CD and the plugin was not available in either Core/Extras? Would the audio player be included? Without a repo Apt is useless. The same goes for an audio player with no decorder(s). > -- > Michael Schwendt <mschwendt@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Fedora Core release 4 (Stentz) - Linux 2.6.11-1.1369_FC4 > loadavg: 1.02 1.24 1.28 >
