Once upon a time, Aleksandar Milivojevic <amilivojevic@xxxxxx> said: > Usually I have it set to just "C" (default POSIX locale). I hate when > ls intermix dot files with "normal" files in ls -a output, and don't > like lower/upercase being ignored when sorting either. Setting LANG to > C solves both problems :-) Since all you are complaining about here is ordering (not charset or language issues), you should just change the ordering. LC_COLLATE=C works just fine while keeping all the magic goodness that is en_US.UTF-8. -- Chris Adams <cmadams@xxxxxxxxxx> Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.