I see that in terms of window managers, FC3 dropped sawfish and added xfwm4. Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, this means that from my point of view, FC3 does not have a usable window manager. As far as I'm concerned, a usable window manager must support the following capabilities: 1. GNOME-aware. 2. The ability to bind events to keyboard/mouse combinations, such as binding "Raise Window" to "Meta+MouseButton1". 3. The ability to disable "raise on click" behavior. 4. The ability to disable "raise on focus" behavior. The last time I checked, metacity failed #3, and Havoc refuses to add capability #2: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95499 xfwm4 appears to fail capability #2. twm and mwm fail capability #1. If my assessment above is wrong, I would appreciate corrections, as I would greatly prefer to use one of the window managers that comes with FC3. Otherwise, if my assessment is correct: what are those of you who also demand the above capabilities using? Sawfish from CVS? Something else? Thanks, -- James Ralston, Information Technology Software Engineering Institute Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh, PA, USA