On Tuesday 07 December 2004 01:59, Thomas Cameron wrote: >On Tue, 2004-12-07 at 13:50 +0800, John Summerfield wrote: >> Thank you Gene. >> >> I've never said more than "please post no HTML" and, when provoked >> then provided some reasons. > >Then my post certainly wasn't directed at you. I think I made clear >over and over that I was talking to the people on this list who take > a "holier than thou," condescending or downright rude tone with > newcomers. > >> I am offended at the rudeness of people such as Thomas. > >I am truly sorry if you are offended. > >> There are many factors >> that go to _my_ choice of email client, and its ability to render >> HTML and Javascript does not rank. I chose one to suit _my_ >> requirements. > >Great - I agree with your reasoning. I think that is the only way > to choose any tool. BUT - if 92-93% of the list uses MUAs which > handle HTML just fine, how is it reasonable that that 92-93% should > change their ways to support the 7-8% of the list members who > voluntarily choose to use an MUA which doesn't handle HTML? I believe your estimates of how many actually use html might be based on an examination of the headers to determine the MUA used. However, since its switchable in most MUA's, I dare say that the members of this list that actually use html as a default mode probably can be estimated at under 1%, and thats certainly _not a majority_. >Don't get me wrong - I personally don't like HTML mail, and I prefer >bottom posting. But I refuse to get all lathered up about it when > some new user top/HTML posts. I might shoot them a gentle > explanation of list etiquette. At worst I'll delete the message. > But at no time will I be publicly derogatory towards him/her. That > hurts the community. Agreed, except for posting position, as you can see I intersperse so that the context of the conversation is preserved. However, I do have a certain frustration level for those that quote 3 to 5 pages of the previous message before replying at the bottom. Such messages tend to get skimmed and passed by when there may actualy be a nugget of knowledge buried in such a post from time to time. It should be possible to scroll the message such that the instant context is largely onscreen in one view, it tends to make for a more cogent response, at least from this poster. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.30% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.