On Tue, 2004-12-07 at 15:06 +0800, Edward wrote: > > Thomas Cameron wrote: > > > I'm not saying it's fair, I'm certainly not saying it's better - I > > vastly prefer plain text for e-mail. What I am saying is that it's > > fact. So why is it that over 90% of the list should change their ways > > for the 7-8% who voluntarily choose not to handle HTML e-mail? > > > > Cheers, > > Thomas > > I can't believe I'm adding something again, but here I go... > > VASTLY PREFER PLAIN TEXT FOR E-MAIL... As do I! > You just said it and a lot of people here think it. Like you I "DEAL" > with HTML mail on a daily basis. And true, it's an unfortunate fact that > HTML is the default on most mailers. To me it's bloat and completely > unnecessary. Agreed! > I'm also in agreeance with you - that, like I just said, we're not going > to get away from it because with nearly all the recent clients, HTML is > on by default (maybe that's where your 90% comes from?). It comes from the list statistics that Scot Harris is kind enough to generate every month: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2004- December/msg01344.html If I'm reading it right, about 7% of the mailers used to post are text only mailers which might have issues with HTML mail (mutt, pine, etc.). > But all I'm saying is that it is not netiquette. I know you don't > believe in hard and fast rules as per your previous posts (as you > shouldn't), but it is simply a "Nice thing to do (tm)". Absolutely! I couldn't agree more. I am a firm believer in netiquette. But netiquette is the suggested proper behavior - it isn't law. People who go postal over innocent violations alienate new users. I've seen it happen. That is bad all the way around. > So if someone kindly asks for a poster to not use HTML, please don't > begrudge them that. I wouldn't - I have absolutely no problem gently educating a new user. You can look through the archive and see where I have suggested that posters use plain text, and my .sig for a long time advocated bottom posting. > HTML mails are like 10x bigger, and in remote > Australia dial-up, receiving something like 400 messages a day from this > list...dude...trust me - she adds up...I've done the math. I can absolutely understand your pain. I've said before that I prefer plain text and bottom posting. > In summary - I do agree with you, and I will continue to deal with it > without getting upset or anything, but if someone wants to ask someone > to adhere to netiquette (nicely ofcourse!!!), then they really should be > allowed to. Not an ounce of argument from me there. I only took issue with the blasting of newbies that has become more and more common on this (and other) lists. We were all newbies once. I embraced Linux because the Linux community embraced me - in spite of some *really* dumb questions I asked early on (I was introduced to Linux in 1995). I hate to see newcomers not get the same amazing support that drew me into this community. Gentle persuasion is a Good Thing(TM). High-horse snobbery is bad for the everyone involved - the whole community suffers. > Regards, > Ed. Thanks, Thomas
