On Wednesday 01 December 2004 01:45, Thomas Zehetbauer wrote: > Using my own mail server I can verify that and when a message has been > delivered to the recipients server. Have you ever tried to get this > information from your ISP? You can't actually. Many (most) sites have alternative sites that accept mail on their behalf and forward it later. My incoming mail to _this_ address lands on a box that you see and then is forwarded via a VPN to a location you cannot see. -- Cheers John Summerfield tourist pics: http://environmental.disaster.cds.merseine.nu/