Re: Fedora Extras is extra

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On Tue, 2004-11-30 at 14:29 +0100, Axel Thimm wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 29, 2004 at 11:25:01PM -0500, William M. Quarles wrote:
> > OK, Axel, you really need to go on a comedy tour.  Number three of 
> > laughter for me for the day.
> 
> Glad to cheer someone up. SCNR is an acronym for "sorry could not
> resist".
> 
> > I've got to ask, how do you come up with these quotes so quickly and 
> > readily?  Where everybody forgets, you always seem to remember.
> 
> I've been there, and the same discussion keeps recurring with tha same
> people trying to distort facts and history. I should probably make an
> FAQ for that ... :/

Actually, I think that would be a good idea. I also think it would be
great to have something like it front and center on sites like Axel's,
Dag's, etc. I don't know if it could be added to fedorafaq.org, but this
makes a lot of sense too.

Frankly, I'm tired of the same people trying to distort history. Tell a
lie long enough and people start to believe you. It's unfortunate that
many if not most of the folks in charge of fedora.us seem to be choosing
control over collaboration. That's not good for the community.

In the old Murphy Brown TV show, Murphy (played by Candice Bergen) said
to two guys arguing like this, "Look why don't both of you drop your
pants, I'll go get a ruler and we'll settle this like real men." I think
a couple of folks on both sides of the argument could learn something
from this.

I've seen some really good suggestions get smacked down over someone's
desire for control over someone else's desktop - sometimes in the name
of it being for the end user's own good. Having been in the business a
long time, that sounds pretty Microsoftish if you ask me. ...Or do you
remember when Bill Gates said they did what the did to IBM over OS/2
(you know, the stuff they were later sued over by the DOJ) because they
were trying to save IBM?

Ideally, the community of developers should be the ones collaborating.
The end-user, when all is said and done, should have the control.
Similarly, auto makers collaborate on cars, but you're the one who is
eventually in the driver's seat.

Cheers,

Chris


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