On Mon, 2004-11-22 at 07:34, Jeff Vian wrote: > Sound has been being installed that way since at least the 7.X days. I > don't know about earlier since I never used sound on the earlier > versions. > > I agree it should be fixed, but how? When users have a variety of > choice for mixers, and the mixer volumes are what are turned down. > > I would also prefer to have the volumes be turned clear down rather than > turned all the way up and maybe damage speakers or amps (and my ears). > So the way it is would likely be better than the possible alternatives. That may well be true but the problem is the error messages that Fedora gives. If you clicks on soundcard detection it gives you the option to "Play Test Sound". If you click on that it will ask you "Did you hear the sample sound." If you answer no the reply is: "Automatic detection of the sound card did not work. Audio will not be available on the system. Please click on OK to continue." I gave up at that point. I suspect I'm not alone. My problem turned out to be an obscure (to me) volume setting. A warning in the unofficial FAQ might well be in order. Advice to those still having problems: Do check that you have *really* maxed out every possible volume setting. David