Once upon a time, Ken Johanson <fedora@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> said: > But my cage rattling is about "Why is the kernel source not included", > not lack or headers. If I could have just rpm/bzipped the source from > one of the discs we wouldnt even be here right now. It is included and you can rpm it, just like the source to every other package is included. > Although older modules (the one with my NIC is almost 3 years old) still > require 'old' build envs- not a defense of them -- instead an argument > for providing the source in a convenient fashion so that a user in my > case can get up and running with emitting vulgarities. A 3 year old module source file will not build with a kernel included with Fedora Core 2. Having the kernel source installed by default or not will not have any effect on that. If a module can't build in the current build environment (i.e. necessary Makefiles and headers under /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build), it most likely can't build against the kernel anyway. There is no need to emit vulgarities unless you are a troll. -- Chris Adams <cmadams@xxxxxxxxxx> Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.