Re: FLAME____ Why is the kernel source not included

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Ken Johanson wrote:
Alexander said "Mount FC2 CD3"

Yes he did, and ended his comment in an inflammatory tone - without investigating or being aware-of the FC3 release candidate, and the reported plans to exclude the source from the install discs. He set himself up for that response by using the word 'investigating' and being rude.

I'm sure Alexander is well aware of the plans for FC3.

For the FC3 source (which is off-topic for this list btw), you'd need the SRPM:
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/2.92/SRPMS/kernel-2.6.8-1.541.src.rpm


Sorry Paul - let me do looking and and find the test-specific mailing list. Sorry if I burdened anyone here for pointing out an arguable deficiency in a release due out in 2 weeks.

It is indeed arguable, which is why there has been an extensive discussion on it on the -test list.


Don't you agree that building modules from sources in /lib/modules... is in the long term the "right thing to do", since the kernel.org people have been advocating this for ages? Some module writers still require the old-fashioned /usr/src... way of doing things, so perhaps Fedora are doing the whole community a favour by encouraging the module writers to use the proper build system, which will then benefit all distributions.

And hopefully anyone who has an problem while wanting to build custom kernels or module will catch this issue when they browse through the test 'list' and find my post about this, there... And most people wont need to build NIC modules, or build in SCSI or NTFS drivers, so should be able to get the source onto their machine form the site...

All of these things can be done in FC3. Building a custom kernel will require the kernel SRPM, building SCSI/NTFS modules should work using the out-of-tree build system without needing the source code.


Do you sense a tad bit of sarcasm? I take the kernel very seriously - like I said, it *is* our constitution. Constitutions are lost if we dont fight to keep them intact.

I agree, the kernel source is very important, but it *is* being provided for those that need it.


I am sure that for those modules requiring the old-fashioned kernel source location for building, FC3 HOWTOs will appear rapidly after the release of FC3, at least for things that people actually want to use.

Paul.



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