Tom "Nifty Hat" Mitchell was helping Jeremy Conlin. Tom asked: > Are you seeing the graphical boot screen or the old style > text display with a the green OK messages. In text mode > it can be easier to see errors. Jeremy replied: > I see a graphical grub allowing me to up or down arrow to select which > kernel to boot (or I can push one of several different keys to add > additional options.) You'll need one of those options. Press "e" to edit the line. Delete "rhgb quiet" from the line that's got them (it should start "kernel..." or "/boot/vmlinuz..." The "quiet" gets rid of some of the boot-up messages: you want to see them all. RHGB is the Red Hat Graphical Boot: without it, you get the old-style text boot. This both has less to go wrong and is better for troubleshooting. Tom asked: > Can you boot to any of these initstates? > > # 1 - Single user mode > # 2 - Multiuser, without NFS (The same as 3, > if you do not have networking) > # 3 - Full multiuser mode > # 5 - X11 The easiest way to temporarily boot to a different init state is by adding (a space and) the appropriate number to the end of the kernel boot line you've just edited... Tom recommended: > In rescue mode can you comment out the fstab lines > for your SCSI RAID files system and if so does the box boot. Jeremy got frightened ;-) > You are beginning to get way outside of my area of expertise. I don't > even know what fstab is but I would love to know. Keep in mind that I > cannot exclude the SCSI RAID device(s) because that is where my hard > drives are. Don't worry: we'll guide you. Can you use the command line to find your way around the Linux file tree? In the /etc directory (where system-level configuration is kept), you'll find a file called fstab. This lists all the filesystems known to the system (a filesystem is what you put on a partition when you format it). Use cat or less (or more, if you're used to it) to view it. The comment symbol for fstab is the hash (#). If you put that at the beginning of a line, Fedora will ignore it. This means that you can put messages like # Jeremy took this out to get the system to boot in there, or put a hash at the beginning of an otherwise valid line to disable it (yet make it easy to re-enable it). If you have a preferred editor use that. If not, see if nano is installed on your box. Practice on a safe file somewhere first! You will need to use nano -w to stop it line-wrapping. Ask if you have any more questions, and let us know how you get on. Good luck! James. -- E-mail address: james | Og just boggle how stupid spammer is. How stupid @westexe.demon.co.uk | spamhaus is. How stupid spamhaven is. Og thought | there was such thing as "evolution". How all these | stupid people still alive? Og boggle. Boggle Og. | -- Caveman Og