Hi Darren, > On Thu, 2004-08-05 at 16:10, Stephen Liu wrote: > > The Gnome desktop including icons look identical > to > > KDE with K-Start(Redhat) on bottom menu-bar. > > Gnome-Start(the big-foot) disppears including > > gnome-applications, such as gedit, nautilus, etc. > > In trying to get my head around what could be > happening I re-read your > message and had a thought: if you have gnome-session > set to > automatically save your session on exit, and you > somehow have the KDE > panel, or Konqueror set to draw the desktop, in your > session then that > could be what is happening. Try this: open a > terminal (whilst in GNOME) > and run this: > > ps -A > ~/ps-A.txt > > Then post that file here, so we can see if there are > some KDE apps > running like kpanel or konqueror that you really > don't want. $ cat ~/ps-A.txt PID TTY TIME CMD 1 ? 00:00:01 init 2 ? 00:00:00 ksoftirqd/0 3 ? 00:00:00 events/0 4 ? 00:00:00 khelper 5 ? 00:00:00 kacpid 19 ? 00:00:00 kblockd/0 20 ? 00:00:00 khubd 31 ? 00:00:00 pdflush 32 ? 00:00:00 pdflush 33 ? 00:00:00 kswapd0 34 ? 00:00:00 aio/0 141 ? 00:00:00 kseriod 180 ? 00:00:00 kjournald 771 ? 00:00:00 kjournald 1152 ? 00:00:00 dhclient 1444 ? 00:00:00 syslogd 1448 ? 00:00:00 klogd 1459 ? 00:00:00 portmap 1478 ? 00:00:00 rpc.statd 1518 ? 00:00:00 rpc.idmapd 1588 ? 00:00:00 sshd 1601 ? 00:00:00 xinetd 1619 ? 00:00:00 sendmail 1628 ? 00:00:00 sendmail 1646 ? 00:00:00 spamd 1655 ? 00:00:00 gpm 1665 ? 00:00:00 cannaserver 1677 ? 00:00:00 crond 1688 ? 00:00:00 cupsd 1908 ? 00:00:00 xfs 1917 ? 00:00:00 anacron 1925 ? 00:00:00 atd 1942 ? 00:00:00 dbus-daemon-1 1952 ? 00:00:00 rhnsd 1971 ? 00:00:00 miniserv.pl 1993 ? 00:00:00 miniserv.pl 1998 tty1 00:00:00 mingetty 1999 tty2 00:00:00 mingetty 2030 tty3 00:00:00 mingetty 2061 tty4 00:00:00 mingetty 2081 tty5 00:00:00 mingetty 2084 tty6 00:00:00 mingetty 2085 ? 00:00:00 gdm-binary 2206 ? 00:00:00 gdm-binary 2217 ? 00:00:24 X 2919 ? 00:00:00 adsl-connect 2940 ? 00:00:00 pppd 2941 ? 00:00:00 pppoe 3659 ? 00:00:00 gnome-session 3727 ? 00:00:00 ssh-agent 3729 ? 00:00:01 gconfd-2 3732 ? 00:00:00 gnome-keyring-d 3734 ? 00:00:00 esd 3736 ? 00:00:00 bonobo-activati 3738 ? 00:00:00 gnome-settings- 3743 ? 00:00:00 fam 3812 ? 00:00:00 xscreensaver 3836 ? 00:00:00 metacity 3838 ? 00:00:00 magicdev 3840 ? 00:00:01 nautilus 3842 ? 00:00:01 gnome-panel 3844 ? 00:00:00 pam-panel-icon 3846 ? 00:00:02 rhn-applet-gui 3847 ? 00:00:00 pam_timestamp_c 3850 ? 00:00:00 gnome-vfs-daemo 3875 ? 00:00:00 mapping-daemon 3878 ? 00:00:00 clock-applet 3880 ? 00:00:00 notification-ar 3882 ? 00:00:00 mixer_applet2 3944 ? 00:00:00 wnck-applet 3976 ? 00:00:11 mozilla-bin 4068 ? 00:00:00 netstat <defunct> 4160 ? 00:00:00 gnome-terminal 4176 ? 00:00:00 gnome-pty-helpe 4177 pts/0 00:00:00 bash 4242 pts/0 00:00:00 ps Neither kpanel nor konqueror are there. > Another alternative would be to run this is a > terminal: > > gnome-session-properties > > and de-select "Automatically save changes to > session". Then log out (and > if prompted to save your session say no). I will try this after answering your previous posting. Thanks B.R. Stephen _______________________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com.hk address at http://mail.english.yahoo.com.hk