On Sun, 2004-07-25 at 12:43, Craig White wrote: snip > > </rant> > ----- > interesting rant > > now mine > > <rant> > People who steal other threads > > People who ask questions that provide absolutely no details about the > hardware they are using (video card) even though it would appear that > the hardware configuration is the problem. > > People that give no indication of the logs that they have looked at for > clues to their problems (/var/log/Xorg.0.log or /var/log/messages or > /var/log/dmesg) > > People thoroughly unfamiliar with > <http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html> > > </rant> > > Craig I agree -- but IMHO -- Many times these people are newbies and don't know to send this information. Consider the MScat converts -- How much data does Mscat give the user to deal with a problem? Possibly a netique message at sign-up to relay this information. I suspect that many newbies are not even aware of the /var/log files much less how to get debug information. jludwig <wralphie@xxxxxxxxxxx>