On Fri, 2004-07-02 at 13:00, John Aldrich wrote: > On Friday 02 July 2004 02:23 pm, Ow Mun Heng wrote: > > On Fri, 2004-07-02 at 08:11, Jon Shorie wrote: > > > I have a simple solution, and this is what I did at home. I purchased a > > > d-link hardware router with firewall. It only costs between $20 and $40 > > > > [snip] > > > > > > The biggest benefit of something like this is that it increases your > > > machine's security by providing an additional layer between you and the > > > internet. > > > > Frankly I don't believe that. Although it removes the idiot factor (of > > Duh.. factor as Homer puts it) > > > Actually, I've used GRC.ORG's "Shields Up!" website to scan my system and it > pretty much didn't find a thing. So, I feel pretty confident that my machine > isn't going to get compromised from outside, and as I'm pretty much the ONLY > user on that machine, I'm pretty sure it's not going to get compromised from > the INSIDE either. :-) Hmm.. you're not the original poster of this thread. but anyway, what are you trying to tell me? The router/firewall is better? I use same grc service too, and I'm doing fine. This is my laptop I'm talking about actually. I-Net | eth1 | shorewall | laptop | NAT + port forwarding + dhcp | eth0 | switch/Hub | Rest of network As I mentioned, they're basically the same architecture. between a off-the-shelf and your *nix machine. Difference, IMHO between the off-the-shelf and your *nix box? $$, idiot-factor, configuration etc. Don't forget that some of the off-the-shelf stuff yu buy are really running some kind of embedded *nix OS. (eg: linksys wrtg54 router/access point) Whatever you choose, it's up to you and how much $$ or time you want to spend. And I'm in no position to argue whether this is better than the other. Oh.. BTW, with your off-the-shelf ones, unless you're paying a lot, some of the advanced features, you don't get TrafficShaping/QoS like I do with Linux/Shorewall. -- Ow Mun Heng Fedora GNU/Linux Core 2 (Tettnang) on D600 1.4Ghz CPU kernel 2.6.7-2.jul1-interactive Neuromancer 13:04:30 up 2:24, 6 users, load average: 3.72, 2.44, 1.84