On Tue, 2004-06-22 at 05:30, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Tue, 22 Jun 2004, Patrick Boutilier wrote: > > > Timothy Murphy wrote: > > >> It's amazing what idiotic excuses are made for software bugs. > >> A bug is a bug - that's all there is to it. > > > Well then fix it. You have the source. > > > Unhappy customer: "This car I got from you last week doesn't run well at > all. Sometimes, it doesn't start and, every so often, it stalls, even > on the freeway at high speed." > > Salesman: "Well then fix it. You have the tools." > > > hmmm .... nope, doesn't sound persuasive in *that* context, either. --- Lot's of posts but nothing anybody is going to say is going to change people's minds on this. It seems with each new kernel change/distro, this repeats itself. It seems to me that the people that have a long time investment in Linux understand what occurs when there is a major upgrade and hold back installing it on production systems, be they server or workstation until the issues get worked out. Newer Linux users expect every new distro (without regard to kernel version upgrades) to work extremely well. I would suggest that rather than trying to convince people to lower their expectations, it would be more beneficial to suggest that we work together to solve the problems and develop a better sense of humor (i.e. less whining) about the problems we face. Craig