Well I've dug a hole and can't seem to get out: Can't update via up2date because it says I am not associated with any channels. (When I first installed a few hours ago, I was associated with two default channels, but they have disappeared.) I tried downloading the latest up2date manually, but when running rpm it came back with an error: error: up2date-4.1.21-3.i386.rpm: V3 DSA signature: BAD, key ID 4f2a6fd2 error: up2date-4.1.21-3.i386.rpm cannot be installed I don't understand this at all! What key do I need and where do I get it? I'm stymied. I have lots of software to load and/or upgrade, but I know there are a whole bunch of packages that need updates. Can someone lend a few words of help to get me going? Thanks for your patience, Dick -- In these trying times, Ben Franklin's view should be a guide: "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." (1759)