Re: Web site suggestions.

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Gertjan Vinkesteijn wrote:

Robin Laing wrote:

Bevan C. Bennett wrote:

Robin Laing wrote:


Even if the website were outside the US, Fedora as a US organization cannot officially condone the illegal use of software. Private repositories for these packages are easily discovered for those who live somewhere without such laws or for those willing to personally risk infringing use.


Yes, it's perhaps stupid that certain corporations han maintain a licensing stranglehold on certain popular codecs (even if they did come up with them in the first place), and prevent them from being used with GPL software.

The very simple difference is that, because Windows is not zero-price, Microsoft can absorb all of the licensing costs to these other companies neccessary to legally include their algorithms in the packaged product. Apple can (and does) do the same thing.

A company could set themselves up selling properly licensed software for mp3 and dvd use, but they could not use GPL code to create their software without some interesting shenanigans, because the license will prohibit the end result from being GPLd.

The DVD issue is really annoying, but I just rip all my CDs to .ogg and avoid the MP3 fiasco entirely. For a user without a pre-existing collection, it's easy to use the included tools in Fedora to do this. As an added benefit, not having any mp3s on your system makes you less likely to be targeted as an alleged music pirate by large overzealous acronyms.



It is a shame that companies are doing all that they can to prevent the growth of Linux. Look at Microsofts paying SCO to fight. (search for links) DeCSS was developed for the purpose of playing DVD's on Linux.


Even if the site cannot be officially sanctioned by Fedora and RedHat, it doesn't mean that it cannot be setup. If you follow and search the Archives you can find most of these pachages mentioned. The problem is one single site. Even when I typed in "yum update" yesterday, I ended up with a dependency error so yum is not perfect. Some sites have part of the package but you have to download libs from another site. Of course a new user needs to set it up for all the "other" providers. Especially the signatures for security.

Ripping or even playing CD's could become a problem without codecs as the music industries want to put more copy protections on the CD's. I have even seen suggestions of using WMP 9 with DRM for protection.

We may have one blessing if the EU forces Microsoft to not include Windows Media Player. It would be nice if something similiar could occur in the US and Canada.

I agree, but do we have a working KaZaa like thing on the moment? Or a 5.1 sound system? That is a booster with at least 4 speakers for 29 euro C-media card and 50 euro Trust speakerset

Apropos, I just signed up for Bugzilla, not so difficult to do, please join

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