Re: RH now exiting 1 more data center

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On Sun, 2004-02-22 at 18:22, Res wrote:

> > Slackware.  There's just to much missing from it.  I know it can do the
> > job just fine but the maintenance of a Slack box is astronomical
> > compared to any of the other distros.  You would probably be better
> 
> actually no, its about the same as RH.

	On what planet?

> > 	So far I've found the quality of packages in FC1 to be a bit better
> > than RH 9, but YMMV.
> 
> reliability + stability = RH of old.
> fedora reminds me of NT, for desktops its fine, but forget any REAL server
> use.

	FC1 is as stable for servers as RH9 ever was.  The only disadvantage to
Fedora on REAL servers is it's update cycle.  It will cost a lot more in
admin and management resources than RHEL.  This is why mission critical
production servers are better off with RHEL in most cases.  We can
manage keeping our Linux boxes updated because we have enough people
with the skills to do it.  And even so we're going to be moving to RHEL
in the very near future anyway.

> we had 7.3 boxes running until recent that NEVER missed a beat, never
> had to touch them,, like the RH9 boxes we have.... since fedora went on
> the 7.3 boxes, well, what a nightmare, daily interventions.
> I know of others who were running 7.3 samba servers, fedora destroyed it,
> they gave up and reinstalled 7.3 and backups from tape, they have told me
> they will not touch it again either. 

	I'm guessing that you did an upgrade from the 7.3 boxes to FC1.  That's
likely your problem.  While you _can_ do an upgrade from older versions
of RH to Fedora it's not something any competent admin would do.  At
least not on REAL production servers.

> I know RH engineers work on this project, but the QC crew sure as hell
> dont, if they did FC1 WOULD be as reliable and stable as previous
> RH's.

	FC1 is much more reliable and stable than RH8 ever dreamed it could
be.  And you must be forgetting about the 2.x, 3.x, 4.x, 5.x, 6.x days
as well.  Fedora is not bullet proof.  Neither was RH9.  If you want
bullet proof you want RHEL (or one of the clones).

<Off Topic Side Rant>

	There is one real down side to the whole Linux/Open Source thing... 
Because it's so available and affordable everyone is running it.  No
matter how much work is put into Linux it will always be a UNIX-like
system.  UNIX was most definitely NOT made for casual or even what the
Windows world calls power users.  A UNIX SysAdmin needs training and
experience in order to even be a junior/beginner admin.  The current
Linux distros have gone a long way towards being idiot proof but there's
only so much dumbing down that can be done.  No matter how hard you try
to make it easy, rocket science is still rocket science.

</Off Topic Side Rant>

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