On Tue, 2004-01-27 at 06:17, Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote: > Neither GNOME nor KDE are window manager per se. That are full desktop > environments. Metacity is the default window manager (but you can use > Sawdish) for GNOME, while KWin4 is the default window manager for KDE > (but you can use IceWM) One can also use XFCE's window manager (xfwm4) with GNOME. Works beautifully and gets rid of some of the annoyances of Metacity. It as a "classic" Bluecurve theme that I find quite pleasing. Ben -- Ben Steeves _ bcs@xxxxxxxxxx The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves@xxxxxx against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/ascii / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves