thanks for every one's help last time about this but its still slow... i followed every ones advise and no change its still runs at 5mega bytes per second over a 100 mega bits per second hub then i realised when i was swaping files about on my fedora pc up stairs on gkrellm the server is using rx not tx but yet there is a small amount of tx packets flyin round my network. do i need to configure my network card to use TX-100base some how ? thanks for yore help again - Jonny