Rui, Your comments are right on the money and I could not agree more. I hope you don't mind me bringing this to the attention of the list. In fact, I did not know that fedoranews.org was a separate project. Regardless, I think the issue is relevant and hope to see support for your point of view. Also, I sent an email to the author of those tutorials and hope he'll respond by taking the documents off of the website. Sincerely, Adam Kosmin WindowsRefund.net Rui Miguel Seabra (rms@xxxxxxxx) wrote: " On Mon, 2004-01-12 at 09:51, Adam Kosmin wrote: " > Is it appropriate to encourage people to install non-FOSS software on " > Fedora? " " Fedora News is a different project from Fedora. " " IMO encouraging people to install non-Free software, regardless of what " operating system you are running on, is extremely bad advice. " " You should always look suspiciously towards anyone advising you to " install something is bad for you, and generally evil (for instance, with " Sun's JDK you are not allowed to give a copy to a friend of yours, that " could revoke both your copy and his immediately since only Sun and " authorized distributers can give access to its JDK). " " It is true that some non-Free software may perform certain tasks better " than their Free Software counterparts, but remember that non-Free " software brings a social cost that is very bad: social division between " those who can and those who can't. " " With a proposed European Directive law that turns copyright infringement " a public crime being actively pursued by guys not at all unlike the BSA, " you might even face jail time for having unlicensed copies. " " Remember that even though you can download Adobe Acrobat gratis, you " still have to abide to its license (ie, you have to click I Agree) and " doing so, you agree that you will not help your friend by giving him a " copy of a program in case he needs it. " " That's one reason why all software should be Free Software, so you never " do something wrong by giving a copy of some program to your friend. " " I think it's totally evil to turn the world upside down, into some " society where you can't legitimately help your friends because you're " not allowed to. " " rui " " -- " + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown " + Whatever you do will be insignificant, " | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi " + So let's do it...? " " Please AVOID sending me WORD, EXCEL or POWERPOINT attachments. " See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- "Yes, Your Honor. Now, where we are so far, in at least my line of reasoning, is I want to walk the Court through enough of our complaint to help the Court understand that IBM clearly did contribute a lot of the Unix-related information into Linux. We just don't know what it is." -- Kevin McBride SCO vs. IBM 12/05/03