>> Log out and then back in. From the main menu, select Preferences, >> Keyboard Shortcuts. Select "Show the panel menu" and then click the >> Windows Key. You should see F13 in the Shortcut column. > > Why the heck this is not default? There's no new pc keyboard on the > stores which doesn't have the start key. Ignore it in favor of alt-f1 is > just stupid for the entry desktop linux from people which is coming from > windows. A -- Your keep forgetting the "<Whine></Whine>" tags... just kidding. On a "slightly" more serious note, you need to seperate the Linux(Kernel/GNU/OS)administrative issues from the deskstop(GNOME/KDE) issues and Distribution issues? This sound like it follows under the GNOME/KDE desktop issue. You could for instance post messages to KDE/Gnome groups suggesting this change or see if it's possible for you or them to be done. And/Or post to a general linux mailing David