Re: Proper ettiquette for posting messages

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Fritz Whittington wrote:
On or about 2004-01-02 14:17, Rick Stevens whipped out a trusty #2
pencil and scribbled:

> Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote:
>
>> At 13:42 1/2/2004, you [[[the OP]]] wrote:
>>
>>> My first attempt at posting messages
>>> (http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2004-January/msg00008.html)
>>> gave
>>> me what I wanted - a solution. But I do not appear to have the reply
>>> part of
>>> this figured out, as the responses are not placed where I want them
>>> to go.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is a specific featuer to your mail client. LookOut and LookOut
>> Express will always place the cursor for reply above the quoted text
>> (top-posting), which is great for one-on-one conversations but murder
>> for mailing lists and newsgroups (one-to-many communication). There
>> is no way to change that, I think, just more work for you. Eudora is
>> a lot more flexible and respects the standards.
>>
>>> Is there an ettiquette document? How should replies be formatted?
>>
>>
>>
>> All I can suggest off the top of my head is:
>>
>> http://www.charlescurley.com/netiquette.html
>>
>> Doubtless there are others.
>
>
> Try http://www.rhil.net/docs/rhil-guide.thml
>
> It was written for the redhat-install-list, but it's valid for this one,
> too.
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A few things at http://www.rhil.net/docs/rhil-guide.html might need
revision or explanation.  For instance, MIME is a no-no, but your own
posting contains:

MIME-Version: 1.0
and
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit


(which I don't disagree with in the least!) I'm just saying it doesn't fit what the guide says...

You're right. It needs updating. I didn't write it, but I know the chap who did and I'll see that it gets updated.

The guide also says to disable quoted-printable, and use 8-bit transfer,
but you are using 7-bit transfer.

Crikey! Am I? I'll have to check on that.

It also seems to me that anyone running either Fedora or even (gasp!)
Windows would have ready access to a MIME-compliant (or at least
MIME-tolerant, in the case of text) MUA.   Would someone running Fedora
actually be reading his email on a PDP-11 using the 1983 version of
Berkeley mail?  :-( Even the elm of that vintage was MIME-tolerant.

Hey, I used one of those! I even used PDP-8s. I tend to agree with you, but the original netiquette guides were written when many people only had access to ASR/KSR33 and 35 teletypes and mail was transferred over HoneyDanBer uucp lines...hence the 72-character line limit request (oh MAN, am I dating myself or what?).

And yes, I myself violate the "4-line .signature" recommendation (mine
are generally 6 lines--automatically generated).  I probably should fix
that.  After all, it's just a template.
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