Thanks, Ed, Yes, we are the same age, but I am brand new to Linux. I first started to get into Linux about a year ago. I had a spare computer and wanted to learn it and use it. I read the reviews, checked out the local book stores, read the websites of what must have been a dozen or more brands and then looked at the list serves available. Probably every version has both Yahoo and MSN groups support but when I tried them I became overwhelmed with spam, so I had to rule that out as an option. I monitored three list servs lists and checked out the release frequency and availability of maintenance support. It became a toss up between Red Hat and SuSE at that time. Red Hat won because of the availability of resources including the books at the book stores, these list serve lists and the availability of ISOs on the internet. I started learning RH and installing it, but I picked up a job that took more time and effort so I dropped it temporarily. I just came back a few weeks ago and, like you, I lost that which made Red Hat valuable to me. Like you, I am at square 1 but with no Linux experience behind me. As for the bleeding edge, I have no problems with starting with the newest release, and I would probably keep one computer bleeding every time a new version was released, but I also need some installs to be stable for at least one year. Remember that I am an MS supporter. I have been putting up with worm, Trojan, virus and spyware attacks for years. Most of my work seems to be protecting the network or cleaning up after them. I keep hearing that Linux has less of these problems and I may be afraid of shadows. I don't know. I do like the up2date provided by the Red Hat Network and would love to see that for Fedora as well. Who knows, it might be enough to get it stable enough to operate and I may not need all the maintenance updates, but then I may. SuSE offers a new version every spring and fall so I can install a version that has been released long enough to get most of the bugs out and then rely on the future maintenance releases to protect the computer from vulnerabilities. If I ever get it installed, I may find that it fits my needs. (Installing via FTP for a total newbie is not easy.) Buck -----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-admin@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:fedora-list-admin@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Edward Croft Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 9:17 AM To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Fedora and the System Administrator -- are my assumptions onSuSE incorrect? On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 23:45, Buck wrote: > For those of you who like to keep fresh blood on your hands, Fedora > might be better. In this field, I am probably the old man (45) and I > don't care to see blood too long, especially if its my own. > <SNIP> > Good luck > > Buck First off, we are the old men, (also 45, just last week), but I always liked bleeding edge. I was all over linux when I first learned of it. The first shrink wrapped was RHL 6.2. I also bought Suse, Caldera, and Turbo linux to try them all, but came back to RHL. I liked playing Tetris while Caldera loaded. I liked Suse somewhat, but it just missed for me, Turbo Linux was out there somewhere, but it was Red Hat that I settled on, and eventually embraced and became a RHCE. I know that you can buy RHEL and still have Red Hat, but it just isn't RHL as we knew it. Fedora may be a great project, but it isn't RHL. It isn't Red Hat. That is the only reason that I stated that I will have to evaluate Suse, Mandrake, et al, along with Fedora. The product I have been using, is going away. The suggested replacement is Fedora. Fedora is not Red Hat. So in essence, I am back to square one. I have been a blind loyalist for Red Hat, but for my home PCs, (work will always be Red Hat), I will investigate other versions. Of course, if Red Hat came out with 10, then I wouldn't be here, I wouldn't be having this conversation, and we wouldn't be plowing through over fifty messages each morning debating the issue. But hey, tempis fuget. (For our non-latin speaking friends, time marches on.) Ed -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list