On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 10:38, Steve Withers wrote: > On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 21:15, Niels Weber wrote: > > > BTW: You did notoffer to install Linux, did you install Windows for her? > > What is if anything breaks on her Windows machine? Are you the one to > > reinstall and fix everything? I now refuse to give that kind of > > "support" to people using Windows. That's a marketing concept of > > Microsoft, people giving that free support to their users. > > Same here....the best help i can give most Internet/word-processing > Windows users is to get rid of Windows. The best help I can give to windows users is update-it on a daily basis, update the virus definitions, update Spybot S&D and use Mozilla instead if MSIE. Windows itself is not a problem... when did you see Microsoft releasing a hot-fix for ntoskrnl.exe? The problems usually lie in MSIE, DCOM & RPC. On the server side also on Exchange. Been a redhat user since 4.2, never wanted anything else & just love Fedora, but, although I can convince my mother to use OO.o instead of MSOffice, my brother who uses XChat or bitchX instead of mIRC is still unhappy with the game support (if any) in WineX for certain popular PC-Games. He is unhappy with the sharing of files on our small network with our neighbors, he just hates editing smb.conf (yes I have enough trust him to do this) and restarting samba, he just hates the lack of ACL editing tools in GNOME for his XFS partition, just like he does it in Windows NT 4,5,5.1 at his friend's place, he just hates the ACL support in SAMBA, and he wants an encryption-enabled file-system. There are tons of details that GNU/Linux does not have yet... He thinks that we should have a sort of daemon which GNOME/KDE can connect to and configure SAMBA/APACHE or others by simply right-clicking on the file/folder. He just wants SAMBA/APACHE to advertise to the daemon what is configurable by what users at them and GNOME to take the options from there and build a dynamic file-properties dialog. It's not a bad idea... but only if you look at the concept, plus the fact that changes should be made at service level & desktop environment level, and of course write the daemon to do that, which is quite improbable... Microsoft HAS such tools... We don't have them, we have to edit smb.conf & httpd.conf, we have to use chacl, chmod & chown. This is not bad in a server environment, but on a desktop it's way to much for the average user... Apple, although I don't like using their tools to configure Apache & CUPS, with MacOS X was a break-through for the desktop UNIX-like user because it showed that it can be done, the question is can it be done for Linux/*BSD/others??? Feel sorry for this, but GNU/Linux is not ready for the desktop market, at least for the average user.
