>From what I'm seeing, there seems to be one great big bunch of stuff that an upgrade from RHL9 to Fedora fails to include. While I am trying to figure out SOMEthing to get some reasonable means of making, breaking a dialup connection AND being able to do so easily, on instant command click, as well as trying to get SOME way to be able to SEE what the modem connection is doing at any given time (like modem lights on the taskbar, that won't work for anything)..... Anyway, I am seeing image files in certain folders that lead me to believe that much of what Fedora contains, as a new install, is NOT installed or upgraded in a situation like mine, an upgrade. Is this true? is the only way to get a *thorough* install of Fedora via a completely NEW install? An upgrade seems sorely short of complete. Dennis