On 03/30/2011 12:10 AM, JD wrote: > On 03/29/2011 08:08 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: >> On 03/29/2011 10:43 PM, JD wrote: >>> On 03/29/2011 06:28 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: >>>> On 03/29/2011 05:08 PM, JD wrote: >>>>> Can this be attributed to Gnome or to the X server >>>>> or to the ATI Radeon driver? >>>> I'm using F 14 and Gnome and see no problems even though my mobo's maxed >>>> out at 1G RAM. Probably the driver. >>> Well, it is taking up to 3.5 seconds for the windows >>> in a workspace to get populated and fully visible >>> when I switch to that workspace. >> What is the load avg on the system in question? I have seen similar on >> my system when the load avg starts to climb (anything> 5 is really >> bad). But, when he load avg is low, redraws should be good. >> >>> It used to be almost instantaneous in F13. >>> I have 2GB ram, and 12 GB swap space, but >>> very few apps running. Most of the time I have >>> 6 workspaces, each with a separate FireFox window, >> Firefox is a resource *PIG*. Since it is one application, I'd look into >> how much memory it is using (both in ram and in swap), and whether or >> not any of its windows are doing anything (like displaying FLASH or >> active JAVA applets). >> >>> and up to 4 4 workspaces, each with a gnome terminal. >>> and 1 workspace with Thunderbird. >> How big are your mailboxes? Thunderbird can also slow you down if you >> have large mailboxes. >> >>> Hardly any space is used in swap. To wit: >>> >>> # swapon -s >>> Filename Type Size Used Priority >>> /dev/sda3 partition 4200992 17540 -1 >>> /dev/sdb2 partition 8385924 0 -2 >> What does your performance look like after you close *every* firefox >> window and thunderbird? [make sure firefox is no longer running.] >> > Here's my load average as reported by top: > > top - 21:02:44 up 1 day, 6:41, 5 users, load average: 0.17, 0.30, 0.73 > The 5 users are myself: the main Gnome login session, > and 4 Gnome-terminal login shells (I always start the gnome terminal > as a login shell (-ls) ) > Guy, it is not the system load. Under fc13, even when I had multiple > kernel builds going, 6 FF windows, each with 3 to 4 tabs, and Thunderbird > running, switching workspaces was snappy. > > Something is terribly wrong with Xserver or Gnome, or Ati Radeon Driver, > or all 3. On your hardware. I am also using F14 on my laptop (x86_64) with the ATI driver, and I only see the problems you see under high system load, which easily happens with thunderbird open (quite a few *large* mailboxes) and a *lot* of tabs in 1 firefox window. Especially when letting a FLASH window or two run for a couple of hours.... Since I closed firefox (I now use Google chrome sparingly, and close it when I'm done), I'm running *much* better. My load avg hasn't shot up yet (and it should have started doing so already based on my hightly cron jobs!). I'll know more tomorrow morning after I suspend it an restart it. > What's worse: it will be exceedingly difficult for me to roll back to fc13. > Isn't progress wonderful! > I hope an Xorg developer sees this!! I don't think they'll be interested unless you can prove its your xorg driver. Just another thought, how long since you rebooted last? Sometimes xorg updates can require a reboot to work right. When was the last xorg update you installed? I suspect you have something mis-configured, but I have no clue as to what right now. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjchome@xxxxxxxxxxx cummings@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx cummings@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines