On 03/21/2011 12:36 PM, stan wrote: > That is one interpretation of "beg the question". However, when I > use a phrase, it means exactly what I want it to mean, no more and no > less. Thank you Mr. Humpty Dumpty. You do understand, don't you, that that attitude makes communication impossible because there's no way for anybody to know what you mean by what you say. The term "begging the question" is a translation of the Latin term,petitio principii, which more accurately would translate as, "assuming your conclusion." That is, you start out by assuming that A is true then use that to prove something that is logically equivalent to the statement "A is true." The term, I'll grant, is a bad choice because it's not at all clear what it means and I personally prefer to use "circular reasoning" for such things. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines